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A nightly ritual
« on: July 14, 2011, 06:36:45 am »
I know that many people out there might think that an out of body experiences sounds like fun, I will try to explain a nightly ritual I have been through because of out of body experiences, this went on for a good fifteen years or more.
No doctor yet has been able to explain why I have these experiences.
I met a well to do medium once whilst living in N, Ireland, a woman by the name of Lillian Gibb, I explained to her that I had seen the spirits of dead people and the spirits of people who were still alive and well , I explained in part how I was able to see spirits and then she asked me to be in what she called a circle, she was so I was made to understand, the spiritual leader for 30 or so churches throughout Ireland and Scotland. I don’t know why she said that she could see six spirits standing by me, she did a reading you might say and started explaining away who these characters were in my presence, I knew she wasn’t telling the truth, she was a sweet old lady whose palms had been crossed enough times with silver that she was living out a very good lifestyle, she was well known and had many followers, I declined her offer of being  in her circle, explaining that whatever I’m experiencing I should learn about for myself.
I once spoke with a catholic priest and asked him what he thought about the human spirit, he started to preach to me about good and evil and how if we listen to the word of god we will reach heaven, I didn’t want to dig any deeper, because I knew the answers he would have given me were not what I was looking for.
This is how I was able to have out of body experiences, my nightly ritual for years starting around about 1991.
Sometimes when I turned the light off before I had gotten into bed, I would have a vision, it could be a vision of anything, it would usually be of nature, a tree a forest rocks or fields, something like this, I have never known what these visions are other than some other dimension, my eyes would be open and yet the darkness would allow me to see all these places and things I had never seen before, this bothered me of course because I knew this meant I was going to have a rough night, so most of the time I would prefer to sleep with the light on.
Once I had gotten under the cover I would just lie still and see what was going to happen, it could be one of a number of things, I might get a feeling in my lower half of my body, the same feeling might be felt in my chest, a kind of tingly feeling, any way it was always a sign that an OOBE wants to happen, so I would move about until the feeling stopped, then my body might vibrate brilliantly, so once again I would move about  until I was comfortable.
For years and even until this day I have to sleep face down, my right hand under the pillow with my face resting on my left hand which is on top of the pillow, if my hands are touching any part of my body or my arms simply crossed over each other, then the sensation of them touching would induce an OOBE.
If all this wasn’t enough, closing my eyes was also a mission, for as long as I can remember when the OOBE were uncontrollable, then two sets of visions would come to me when I tried to sleep, the first vision which I have mentioned before in another post, would kind of morph into different things every three or four seconds, I knew that this was ok because all it ever did was stop once I had fallen to sleep, this type of vision somehow made my dreams more vivid when I woke up, I no longer experience this type of vision.
The second vision was different and still occurs today, for years this vision plagued me until I learnt to live with it and know that it won’t harm me. Imagine the darkness that you see when you close your eyes, imagine the darkness yielding a shape you can’t quite make out but it’s getting more clear with every second, a bit like fog lifting and everything becomes clear, well imagine a train coming at you on a train track and you’re not supposed to move or flinch as the train gets closer, well that’s what this vision feels like the more clear it became, opening my eyes quickly or shaking my head would stop it if I was lucky, if not I would have an OOBE.
The best OOBE would happen when I became conscience of it in my sleep, an easier  and more comfortable way to have an OOBE.
Visions and the body brilliantly vibrating are two ways to have an out of body experience, because of my experiences with OOBE and other things my mind gets up too, then I always say that no matter what misfortune past or present in my life, I’m one of the luckiest people alive, because I know for sure we have a spirit and that we can live outside the body, it’s got absolutely nothing to do with religion, I always say about religions and their teachings of the spirit (That they are all on the right path going the wrong way) we might look different on the outside, but on the inside we all posses the same quality,  it’s something which makes us equal , the same, greater than we can even imagine. I know we don’t know hardly anything compared to the things we are yet to know, I’m sure time has her hands on the moment we all understand what we really are, a sparkle in the jewel of life, a spirit in a animal world governed by the laws of nature, plus the many laws we humans make up as we go along.
I will keep posting experiences that I’ve had and hope that people connect all the dots to the same place, to that phenomena we call the spirit.
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A nightly ritual
« on: July 14, 2011, 06:36:45 am »

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Re: A nightly ritual
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2011, 08:55:56 pm »
Nice post, Rudy!


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...I always say about religions and their teachings of the spirit (That they are all on the right path going the wrong way)
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2011, 04:11:21 am »
Thanks mslemon, I say to much I know but will try to keep it short in the future, you can only imagine from my story how tough life would be having a nightly ritual where you can only sleep in certain positions, spookier than that is the fact that nobody can relate to what is happening to me or the state of minds I seem to reach, I have tried talking to many different kinds of people over the years, i'm sad to say that i'm alone when it comes down to it, it's the most frusterating thing I know. Proving what my mind does thanks to Aspergers is far easier than making people understand.
If people struggle with knowing what Aspergers (Autism) does to a persons mind, then what chance do I or other people with this condition have of being understood by anyone, i'm just lucky that I can express my self at all, being understood is a whole knew world all together.
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Re: A nightly ritual
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2011, 11:40:19 am »
You don't need to keep posts short. The only thing I would suggest for easier reading, is when you start a new paragraph, hit the return key an extra time. That will give a white space break between paragraphs and make for easier reading.


I, too, am one of those sleepers who has to lie a certain way to fall asleep - arms and legs just so. I'm also a stomach sleeper. I don't ever have OOBEs though.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2011, 06:59:50 am »
I have never been a stomach sleeper b/c it causes me to OOBE :) hehehehe  Hi Rudy :)
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2011, 11:10:17 am »
Hi staci4, you sound like fun.
If I curl up in a ball or my hands are just touching my legs or any part of my body, then it induces an OOBE, this has been going on since 1991, going to sleep has been a nightmare for years until I realized it had something to do with the sensation of touch.
I take it i'm the only person on Archive X who goes through such a ritual, if I was a christian then I'm sure an exorcism might have taken place by now LOL.
Has anyone experienced more than one OOBE on Archive X.
I would say about 70% of the OOBE I experience don't feel very nice, I'm so use to them that I just roll over and try to go back to sleep, but it's almost as if I've been injected with energy, even after feeling so tired I can't keep my eyes open, after an OOBE I feel like I'm brand new and don't feel tired anymore.
 
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Re: A nightly ritual
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2011, 05:52:17 pm »
I have never been a stomach sleeper b/c it causes me to OOBE :) hehehehe  Hi Rudy :)


I feel like such an orphan.  :(
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 03:54:17 am »
I feel like an alien that no one understands, imagine seeking advice from people about how your mind works, when you know that no one understands better than you yourself, it's like being a car mechanic for 20 years, hands on knee high in oil everyday right down to the nitty gritty of things, then comes along a mechanic who has read everything from a manual for 5years, but apparently he knows more than you.
It's frusterating, I can tell people in theorie allot about how our spirit works, but I have nothing to compare it to other than my own experiences.
Like I said before, I would love there to be a proper science of the mind, not this silly psychology riff raff that our days is out dated fabrication.
Did you know that Carl Gustof Jung one of the founders of psychology along with Sigmund Frued,  spent his life time dreaming about Phalluses, he was raped by his fathers friend when he was a child, imagine the damage that must have done to his fragile mind, and yet even today we practice his beliefs on how we all tick, (Our behavior and habits) it's like taking advice from a one legged man on how to run a marathon, at 300 dollors or more an hour, it's ridiculous, even the work of sigmund frued is debatable, dream interpretation, what's that all about.
In one book it might say that dreaming about cat's brings you luck and good fortune, in another book, the same dream might say you are going to leave your wife and run off with the mother in law.
I believe we are supposed to feel our dreams and what they mean, not read them, but like anything to do with our trueselves, we go on what the experts say without any questions, until someone comes along with a better truth.
I know and have accepted  that the mind is our spirit, the brain belongs to our body, two completly different life forms all together, one controls the other, one lives a life through the other, and when that life expires, we our trueselves move on.
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 01:34:24 pm »
Rudy, of course all those great thinkers and people we turn to for help for things of the mind can only offer their opinion. That's why there's so many different "schools" of psychology. Skinner, Jung, Freud, etc.


Perhaps we aren't meant to know all about the mind - and that would be the beauty of being individuals. No Borg here.  :biggrin:
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Re: A nightly ritual
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 04:21:09 am »
Hopefully I will write a book in the future about my life and all the strange adventure my mind has been on since I was a child, a book I want to call ‘’Knowing without Knowing’’,  I have to sort out my writing skills or I might have to hire a Ghost Writer, I don’t know yet.
I once visited a psychologist when my mind decided to collapse one day at work, my mind went back to when I was a child, severe autism just took over, I couldn’t even say my name, my eyes were pointed down to the ground and my speech was down to a mumble, I worked in a very busy bar in Holland at the time, everybody was staring at me, I could see and register this at the time and remember people looking at me like I was strange, but I didn’t care or feel embarrassed,  because whatever it was that was happening to me, I was left with no emotions.
I was asked by the psychologist to answer over 900 questions that were penned out for me in the space of 3 hours, the questions sometimes repeated themselves, and then I had to view some pictures in the space of one hour and tell the lady what I felt from the pictures.
The psychologist went on to tell me that they didn’t know that much about Autism and that they had no idea why my mind just collapsed the way it did, she concluded that my behaviour could have been down to being shy, I didn’t tell her that I had been in public relations for the last twenty years, I was a head barman for a big firm and that I was the one who sorted out all the verbal confrontations that took place, I would rub shoulders with up to 300 people a day, so I was far from being shy, and never have been, I’m a typical extravert, but with Aspergers which means I can go on and on, a bit to chatty at times.
I looked at the psychologist who charged me 1300 Euros about 1600 dollars for 4hours work, I looked at her and said that you are using a system on me that was devised by Sigmund Freud, it’s a 130 years old I said to her, I said that you have no idea how the mind works and that you have just wasted my time for hell of allot of money, she never replied back to me, I told her that you will learn more in the future but for now you are playing around with a terribly old system from 130 years ago and charging the earth based on it, I could see she wasn’t very happy with me, but I was right.
I suffered with anxiety, this in turn somehow made my mind collapse for my own protection, I think a part of my mind went missing, and I converted back to being an autistic child, that was my own conclusion any way.
I have experienced Telepathy many times with friends and strangers, my mind has been in two places at the same time, and I see spirits of dead people and people still alive. I know the time on the hour without the aid of a time piece, and live with typical splinter skill traits of autistic savants to do with numbers. I have felt when certain people are going to die, and in a frantic state, it turns out I was right. I have been having OOBE continuously for twenty years and have experienced many other paranormal activities.
I know all these things point to just one thing, we all have one and yet nobody knows anything about it, I enjoy expressing myself on AX and hope to tell allot more of my story’s in the future, I’m lucky, I’m not religious, I’m different because of autism, and I do know that we have a spirit, that’s why I’m able to experience what we have amply coined (Paranormal activity) because I’m different.
You said that it’s maybe a good thing that we are individuals; it’s been individual that has given rise to us all believing that we are all different, that some are better than others, we really don’t care about each other as a whole.
If we are ever going to evolve, we have to realize that we are not individuals, we are separated by our egos, we run around like animals controlling and killing each other, we always believe we are better than our neighbours.
Take away all these borders (Territorial boundaries) dissolve religion down to one faith in ourselves, and learn to communicate in one language. When these concepts have finely been resolved, we will be on our way to unity.
I know how great the human spirit is, it acts like a big bubble where everything and everyone is connected, where everyone and everything is equal. We are far from that state of mind at the moment, because we are individuals, who don’t realize and understand everything is related, as Hinduism might say (Life is Impermanent) ‘’Nothing last forever, forever rearranged, everything changes, nothing remains the same’’.
Everything is constant, that’s how we evolve, the sooner we become one, the better everything will be.
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Re: A nightly ritual
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2011, 10:46:35 pm »
that is against everything I've thought, up until now. About you curling up in a ball, and still experiencing obe's.
Maybe it's because your spirit feels safer?
Idk.
Whenever I wake up from a particularly troublesome (read: dangerous) "excursion", I always find myself in the fetal position.
But I find it easier to do dream work when I lay on my left side.
I guess it's different positions for different bodies, but I still believe the fetal position (knees up to chest, arms wrapped around knees) is the safest possible position a human can been in.
Maybe (and this is a big maybe, I don't know your head) you should work on building confidence in these out of body experiences, instead of letting them control you, learn to move confidently through them, instead of shaking yourself away from them, and rolling over.
It seems that you know how to stop them when you want, so a few journeys shouldn't do any harm, aside from waking a little shaken a couple times. (which from what I gather, is nothing you haven't dealt with in the past)
the first enemy of a man of knowledge is fear. You have to overcome that fear to proceed to even greater enemies, clarity, power, and death.
As organic life, we have so much more energy then anything else you're likely to encounter on your travels, so real danger is only found if you lose your head and do something hugely unwise, and I believe you're beyond that concern.
If you could describe your typical obe, setting, feeling, and details and all, I'd like to try give my thoughts on the matter, if you'd like. but if not, that's perfectly fine too.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2011, 03:20:15 am »
How you doing Dean?
I, have got so use to the way I sleep with one hand under the pillow and the other on top of the pillow, it has become natural now.
I am never afraid when I encounter an OOBE, far from it, in fact I enjoy the sensation they can bring, it’s invigorating.
I no longer experience sleep paralysis, sleep paralysis is the stage the body and mind endures before an OOBE can be accepted.
I have accepted everything my mind gets up too.
I understand that one type of OOBE that I can induce via touch alone, is not suppose to be happening, that’s why an assistant stops me from going any further (Other spirits)
I have a few ways of having an OOBE, some I can help, some I can’t.
Imagine before your head has hit the pillow you realize that you’re having 1/ an OOBE, 2/ a spirit or spirits have joined you, 3/ objects appear before you, or 4/ you are travelling through a forest, for example, Astral travelling, or 5/ an animal is with you from out of nowhere, all these things and more can happen before my head has touched the pillow.
I have been reading your post and understand that you are at the sleep paralysis stage of your experiences; do you understand why this is?
I will tell you why, it’s because of fear and lack of experience.
Sleep paralysis happens because you are not ready for the next stage, you might think you have accepted what is happening to you, but you haven’t; your body and conscience are still trying to deal with the situation, I only ever give one advice to anybody on a successful OOBE, and that is be unafraid, after 42 years of having different types of OOBE, I have learnt they would never harm you, in fact your spirit wouldn’t allow it, and second, everybody has outside protectors who watch over them (Guardian Angels) let’s say.
You need to learn more about OOBE before giving someone like myself advice.
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2011, 09:42:56 am »
that's pride <3
it's all speculation, all I was offering was a different point of view. The impression I got was that you avoided them now. Sorry I was wrong, no harm done.
I don't know anything at all about obes. If you say sleep paralysis goes away when inducing them, then so it does.
But it happens naturally when you fall asleep too, with lucid dreaming as the intent, and  I was just wondering about the actual occurances during one because i'm suspicious that they're related to lucid dreaming, and as such, I could give you advice on specific situations or walls in a dream. (which gets much more advanced then knowing your dreaming, and the guide i've put up so far) and I wanted pursue that idea.
I'm beyond that point when it comes to "dreaming" (in qoutes to specify i'm talking about the discipline, and not the every day verb), and do believe I could help you in that matter. Just as you could help me with oobes. And if they're indeed related, we can help each other.
sry if I offended.  :undecided:
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2011, 03:11:59 am »
I suppose I’m use to learning everything for myself over the years, it’s the only way to be sure of what’s going on without any outside influences.
Sometimes when I read or listen to what other people say, it doesn’t make sense.
I try to tell a story that goes along with what I’m talking about, through my experiences I have learnt so much, through telling a story it’s easier to see what I’m relating to.
I want people to understand in simple terms, that everything I talk about is related to the spirit.
You have to remember, not everybody has these experiences, not everybody can, so teaching about techniques won’t work with most people, especially if the techniques you are talking about sound to technical.
Pride doesn’t make a man, it breaks a man in two.
If you know anything about Aspergers, you will understand we don’t exactly deal in pride.
Dean, it would be lovely if you let rip with a story or two, it would be nice to put the pieces together and see where you are coming from.
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