Paranormal Gestures

[Advent]

Paranormal Gestures

Over the last few weeks’ odd things seemed to have happened. A few weeks ago I was using my debit card over the internet, which my wife does not like me doing. I was up stairs in my bedroom using my laptop, and I could hear my wife up and about down stairs. Now I always keep my card wallet down stairs in a cabinet draw, that way I am always make sure I know where it is at all times. So that my wife didn’t discover I used the card, I left it in a tray in the bedroom, intending to put it away later. I went down stairs and put away the laptop in the same cabinet draw that I normally keep my card wallet.
       In the evening, when my wife had gone to work, I opened the draw to take out my computer. I intended to take it up stairs, and then put away my card wallet so it wouldn’t get lost. But to my surprise, the card wallet was all ready in the draw. It should have been still in the bedroom inside the tray. I couldn’t remember fetching it down and putting it away.

A week or so later, a similar thing happened. It was my youngest daughter’s sports day, and she wanted to be collected by car from the sports field. Now, I couldn’t park our car in our street because of parking restrictions, so I dropped her off at our house with the house keys and my camera, while I parked. When I returned to our house, my wife had bought some fruit loaf. Feeling rather hungry, I spread a few slices, and then went to the lounge to relax.
      Later, I went to retrieve the house keys, and put away the camera bag into a filling cabinet. I couldn’t see them where they were supposed to have been left. I asked my daughter where they were, and she didn’t know where they had gone. Worried that she had left the keys in the front door, I got everyone looking for them. Then I had a horrible feeling, and checked my pockets, and felt my keys. With a huge embarrassment, I confessed to having them. I then quickly checked the filling cabinet, and my camera bag was there too.
     I felt like I was loosing my mind. I couldn’t remember putting away my camera bag and putting the keys in my pocket, and this was the second time this sort of thing had happened.

     Then yesterday morning, something really took the biscuit. I had cooked myself a couple of boiled eggs for breakfast, and I took them into the lounge to eat. I always use the low coffee table to eat on. I had a slight accident with the last egg, the top slipped off my spoon onto the floor, and there was also some egg on the edge of the table. I looked thoroughly around the coffee table for the toilet tissue roll, which my wife kept there. I remember checking a few times to make sure. The table was only 3x2’, so there was no chance of missing it. I looked over at my wife’s side of the room, but couldn’t see it there ether.  I thought about getting a paper kitchen towel from the kitchen, but I decided to finish my egg first. As I picked up my spoon I saw the toilet roll only a foot directly in front of my plate. How did it get there? My wife was always on the other side of the room, and besides, she didn’t know what I was doing. The roll was too big and too close, not to have seen it. Was someone helping me?


Photograph has now been added. As you can see, the roll is a little hard to miss.
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s370/dreamsintime/DSC02073.jpg
 

[mslemon]

Nice to see you Advent!


Those are some bizarre happenings! I guess one could just excuse the card and key thing by saying we do stuff without really paying attention, like when we drive and can't remember the actual drive because we do it so many times. Kind of like being in a trance.


But about the paper roll, I don't know about that!    Unless you've developed a sudden blind spot!

[Advent]

Nice to talk to you again ms lemon
Hasn’t it been quite on this forum?

I agree with you, the first two occurrences do have a reasonable explanation. But that would be some blind spot. The toilet roll was only about two feet away from my face. It will be like not finding your hand in front of your face. I had taken a photograph immediately afterwards. If you could see this photograph, you’ll know what I mean. If the roll was there, it would be as if my brain edited out of my consciousness.
     One explanation could be a negative hallucination. Hypnotists use it as part of a technique to make them invisible to their subjects. On the other hand, a survey conducted in Finland found that 17% of poltergeists can teleport objects. Follow the link to Wikia: http://paranormal.wikia.com/wiki/Teleportation .
     For many years, there have always been odd coincidences, even going back when I lived with my parents. It is only till now I am certain of it. I didn’t want to touch upon the subject till now, because despite three and half thousand posts in this forum, I doubt if the subject has been mentioned. 
 

[all_outta_angst]

The mind is incredibly capable of fooling itself.  I would peg all of those incidents as explainable because they would seem to be the most likely explanation.  The clues to me were your key words.

Everything had a time and place.

For some reason, the mind shuts itself off when we repeat our actions over and over again to eventually not have to think about it anymore.  This is called muscle memory and from an evolutionary perspective helps us avoid predators and act quicker because we don't have to constantly think about such things. 

This happens A LOT with my car keys.  Especially my guitar picks.  I DO NOT notice when and which pocket I shove these items in and they do in fact disappear/appear out of nowhere, because I use them all the time.

Your example of the roll of paper and egg mess is a prime example of not noticing things that are directly in front of you.  In fact, I have a place for my shaving cream, hair gel (I have spiky hair), and one morning I just kept looking for my shaving cream over and over again...I just couldn't find it...and whilst I was looking at the exact place it should be...(I never turned my head), so nothing could have just appeared without me knowing.  That damn shaving cream was right next to my hair gel.  Fuuuu......My mind chose to ignore the fact that my eyes in fact was looking right at it.

Another example is if you have a very fast internet connection.  Sometimes, when you think your going to wait for the web page to change...you don't notice it's already happened.  The brain is not capable sometimes to register things that we do everyday, because we act  subconsciously all the time.

ex: When you're watching TV, how often are you aware of the positions of your arms or legs, what they are doing...till they fall asleep?

I have been absolutely positively 200% percent sure of certainty only to find out I was wrong before...multiple times. 

We tend to think highly of ourselves, till we lock ourselves out.

[Advent]

I can see where you’re coming from. It is like having a perception filter in our heads, the brain can filter something out. I would agree with you in general, but if you could see the photograph of the table, taken immediately after this event, you would think, how could he possible miss that?
     Which ever explanation you prefer, it is disturbing both ways. Ether the toilets roll paranormally teleported or I couldn’t see a comparatively large object in full view. That will make me worried, because will I see that tree when I’m out driving next, or see that pedestrian?

In your opening sentence, you used the phrase, “the most likely explanation”, a favorite used by James Randi. Is it a more likely that Uri Gela bent the spoon by physical force, or he used his mind to bend the spoon? Then, of cause, James Randi set out to prove how Uri Gela cheated by physical bending the spoons. But just because James Randi could prove how Uri Gela could bend the spoons by cheating, doesn’t mean he did. But then James Randi always thinks he’s won the argument by using the phrase, “the most likely explanation”.
      Then if you think about it, all paranormal events will be debunked by the same logic. That’s why James Randi never paid out his million dollars, because of a manipulation of logic.

Coming back to the paper roll, just because there are other explanations, doesn’t make it so.   
To quote Arthur Conan Doyle: “The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes.”

[mslemon]

Nice to talk to you again ms lemon
Hasn’t it been quite on this forum?

I agree with you, the first two occurrences do have a reasonable explanation. But that would be some blind spot. The toilet roll was only about two feet away from my face. It will be like not finding your hand in front of your face. I had taken a photograph immediately afterwards. If you could see this photograph, you’ll know what I mean. If the roll was there, it would be as if my brain edited out of my consciousness.
     One explanation could be a negative hallucination. Hypnotists use it as part of a technique to make them invisible to their subjects. On the other hand, a survey conducted in Finland found that 17% of poltergeists can teleport objects. Follow the link to Wikia: http://paranormal.wikia.com/wiki/Teleportation .
     For many years, there have always been odd coincidences, even going back when I lived with my parents. It is only till now I am certain of it. I didn’t want to touch upon the subject till now, because despite three and half thousand posts in this forum, I doubt if the subject has been mentioned. 
 

We're always up to hearing about new things! The teleportation idea is pretty cool! Never thought of that. And of course Angst has a  good point about selective vision or perception. I know it's happened to me. I'm looking for something and it's been right in front of me.


It's always very quiet here in summer. I guess the paranormal takes vacations, too. 

[all_outta_angst]

Well, I figure that within the context of not everyday happenings, one would surmise that there is no paranormal happenings going on.  Obviously I can't confirm or deny what was happening in your own home as you should have a better idea of the likeliness of a spirit.

As you sent an e-mail earlier Advent, I would love to get the photos you mentioned.  With your permission, I can also let my team of investigators review your evidence as I believe they can possibly provide much more insight than I can.

[Beckon]

I am going to have to agree with all_outta_angst here. I know I have overlooked more obviously placed things than that and ended up spending a half an hour looking for such an object. We do have perception filters. Just think of hidden objects games - you might spend half the time frantically looking  for something only to realize it was large and in the open. One person will be better at finding certain objects than another person. Some people are better at those games than others.  Just think of all the things you routinely ignore without even noticing. The sound of a fan is completely blocked out while you are reading.


If there was more than just that going on I would find it more questionable. As it is though, none of this is particularly out of the ordinary, not even missing the toilet paper roll.

[all_outta_angst]

Okay,  I did see the picture, and I was expecting one table, and one toilet paper roll.  When you quoted James Randi, I believe this is a classic case.  I'm not knocking everything else in regards to your paranormal experiences, but just in the case of the paper roll.

Which is more likely to have happened?
That you made a mistake and for some reason did not see the roll?
Or that teleportation actually happened?  (Even assuming teleportation is real and existing from technology)  We evaluate things all the time to give us the best educated guess, and I would say that unless there were evidence to substantiate your claims...even yourself would likely give the most plausible explanation were it someone else.

The key to the picture is, that there is a clutter of other objects on the table.  As well, I did notice that there are multiple items in the frame that appear to be white alongside the toilet paper.

I remember, when I was in elementary, my group of kids were playing a board game.  We couldn't start the game because my game piece was missing...we looked and looked and looked...and ten minutes later...I realized it was in my hand the WHOLE time. 

Call me stupid, an idiot, a moron, retarded, or just plain dumb...the fact is my mind only registered there was something in my hand...but not what at the time.

I would give my best estimate that your experience was a trick of the mind.

[Advent]

Thank you all, for your posts, and sorry for not getting back to you sooner.
       
        As you can all appreciate, the reason I can easily accept such explanations for these odd phenomena, is because of all the weird happenings in the past. I can only truthfully describe these events, and let you draw your own conclusions.
        I haven’t yet told you about some other strange events that could imply teleportation. I will write about that one later.
        I have also come across other accounts of teleportation, though it wasn’t called that. Old seventeenth century records recalls, a ham which was left in one room, somehow was found in another room even though the door was locked. But that event was blamed on witchcraft.
       I have also found other internet sites that touch upon the subject that you may find interesting. I have linked this post to the sites, and copied the text into this post.

Perhaps forum members could verify the contents of these claims?

Quote:

http://ghosts-uk.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1208

http://paranormal.about.com/od/telekinesispsychokinesis/a/aa110804_2.htm

Air Force study is inspired by astonishing psychokinetic demonstrations

In the early 1970s, the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies funded top-secret research into psychic phenomena under the direction of Hal E. Puthoff and Russell Targ at the Stanford Research Institute. Using established psychics such as Ingo Swann and Pat Price, the program explored how they could use their abilities at will to "see" targets, regardless of distance and time.

The program, which became known as remote viewing, employed specific methods and protocols that allowed virtually anyone to tap into this phenomenon in a way that was measurable and repeatable. The many successes of these experiments are well documented. Obviously, the intelligence community saw such ability as having many amazing strategic and defensive possibilities. And although the intelligence agencies and the military say they no longer use remote viewing, experiments and research continue among many civilian organizations.

A New Direction

Now, however, the intelligence community may be investigating psychic abilities that goes a leap beyond remote viewing – psychic powers that are more sophisticated and potentially more far-reaching: psychic teleportation.

The U.S. Air Force has commissioned an 88-page study entitled "Teleportation Physics Study" in which author Eric W. Davis of Warp Drive Metrics says that teleportation – the movement of a thing or person from location to location through the power of the mind alone – is "quite real and can be controlled."

This astonishing claim has already been dismissed as science fiction by many mainstream scientists. But how many of those scientists also dismissed remote viewing – in fact, still dismiss it despite documented evidence of its reality, simply because it does not fit into their view of how the universe works?

The Air Force, however, is intrigued enough by the possibilities of psychic teleportation – or p-Teleportation, as they call it – to spend $7.5 million to research it.

What makes them think there may be something to p-Teleportation in the first place? Evidence in the form of some interesting phenomena and experiments that have been conducted by others around the world.

The largely untapped (and unexplained) power of the human mind is taken quite seriously in Davis's Air Force study. He notes several experiments, demonstrations and other phenomena that seemingly cannot be explained by conventional science:

• the successes of the remote viewing programs demonstrate the ability of the mind to transcend time and space.

• Psychokinetic (PK) experiments have shown that it's possible to effortlessly bend metal objects, such as spoons and forks, into shapes that are impossible by physical means alone. Yes, magicians like The Amazing Randi have shown that spoon and key bending can be accomplished through sleight-of hand, but real metal bending of this kind is no magician's trick; it has been observed and documented under tightly controlled conditions.

• Although skeptical about this, Davis even cites the reported teleportation of individuals in UFO encounters.

• In 1975, psychic Uri Geller made part of a vanadium carbide crystal vanish. The crystal had been completely encapsulated so Geller could not touch it, and the experiments secure controls ruled out any sleight of hand.

• Controlled and repeatable PK experiments took place in the People's Republic of China in the early 1980s. According to a paper summarizing them, "gifted children were able to cause the apparent teleportation of small objects (radio micro-transmitters, photosensitive paper, mechanical watches, horseflies, other insects, etc.) from one location to another (that was meters away) without them ever touching the objects beforehand."

• Similar successful experiments were also conducted with Chinese children in the early 1990s. "The experiments were well controlled, scientifically recorded, and the experimental results were always repeatable," Davis says. In fact, these tests were actually videotaped or recorded by high-speed photography, and when objects were teleported through containers, for example, "the test specimens would physically 'meld' or blend with the walls of sealed containers." Other times, they would simply disappear from the container and appear in another location. In some cases, it would occur in the fraction of a second, other times it would take several minutes.

This is remarkable stuff and well worth investigating. If this research can do for p-Teleportation what the '70s programs accomplished for remote viewing, we may be in for some truly astonishing discoveries.

Of course, paranormal literature includes many anecdotes of human teleportation and people seemingly (and impossibly) being seen in two places at once. P-Teleportation could explain the doppelganger phenomenon, in which a person's double is seen in some distant location. Could this be a psychic projection of the mind? It could also explain disappearing object phenomena.

We are now only beginning to plumb the depths of the human mind and the potential of psychic abilities. As a species, as we have always pushed out into new frontiers: we have explored the geography of our planet, the advances of technology and the wonders of space. It may very well be that our next great exploration in this century will be the frontier of psychic powers.


By Stephen Wagner
Source paranormal.about.com

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[all_outta_angst]

Well, I can't say with certainty how the military regards itself with it's past involving psychic abilities, but in regards to researching the paranormal field, I have to withhold my personal beliefs of the existence of ghosts until such things are proven.  One may ask, why would I research something if I don't believe in it?  Simply because in the 20+ years I have been interested in the paranormal, I have encountered only two events all within the last couple of years to justify there might be, might be, something to these things. 
Everything I experienced before that....weird noises, sounds, shadows, and objects, were too subjective for me to conclusively say, okay, there IS a paranormal world out there.

It took over twenty some years to experience one thing to say maybe there is something to this.  Not that I am a firm believer yet.  What I believe is irrelevant to the outcome of my research and exploration because all that was needed were to seeds of curiosity to drive the search for evidence.  Just believing we could get to the moon was not enough.  Actually getting there took a lot of work.  Again...I agree a small percentage of people do experience real paranormal events, but lack the scientific knowledge or system to prove and verify it for others if not for themselves. 

Sadly, there are people who believe that the moon landing was faked despite credible mounting evidence.  Belief can do wild things.  I think ghosts are real...I don't know if they are.  I need better proof.

[Advent]

Since Christmas I have experienced more paranormal activity. I have been meaning to publish to Achieve X for some time, but some how never getting round to it. But an occurrence last week has now prompted me to get writing. I always feel as if I am being watched over by an invisible loved one, and some times I am helped out and saved from some misdemeanor, hence the reason for contributing again to this topic, Paranormal Gestures.
     Friday evening last week, I settled down to watch TV in my declining arm chair with a cup of coffee in my left hand. I was resting the cup on the arm of the chair when I unintentionally began to fall asleep. I was shocked awake when my hand involuntary twitched to left to right. It was a similar to an experience I had some time ago when I was shaken awake by some unseen force by shaking on my arm. That night I felt sure that someone had woken me on the coach to go to bed, and that someone was with out doubt my spiritual soul mate, Ann.
     This night was going to prove even more conclusive. To avoid an accident, I finished my coffee incase I drifted off again. Sure enough, I fell asleep again. This time I was woken up by the sound of laughing. It was very close, perhaps only a foot away from my face. As I woke with my head lying on my left side, for an instant, I could see Ann kneeling beside me, with her face close to mine. She was looking down with her head to one side, so her black hair draped over her right eye partly concealing her face. I could make out, that her hair was parted in the middle and ran freely down over her shoulders. It seemed a little untidy and uncombed. The vision only lasted a fraction of a second, but I could read so much into what I saw. I could tell she was only playing with me, but that was her.

[mslemon]

So nice to hear from you, Advent! Have you ever gone long periods of time when it didn't feel like she was around? I'm just curious if she comes and goes or seems to be always present.

[Advent]

I don’t sense her all the time and it appears that she comes and goes. But if I can’t sense her at any given moment, doesn’t mean that she isn’t there. The type of contact I have mentioned above is very rare. The Friday the 22^nd contact was exceptional. There was a, physical, visual, and vocal phenomenon in a single event. Plus I was woken up twice. I also got a good look at her, at such a close range.
        There are long periods of time between visual contacts. Most contacts are ether a strong feeling of presents, or the touching of my head. I found out from a number of sources, that touching is quit common, and so is items disappearing and reappearing.
        The most recent items disappearing and reappearing in our house were three cubical electric adapters. They were placed on a book shelf full of other items. When they had disappeared, you could clearly see the gap where they had been. Some time later they reappeared in the same place, as if they had always been there.
       Coming back to my latest experience with Ann, I was pleasantly surprised, but not shocked. I can’t help thinking how other people would have reacted to this kind of experience?

[mslemon]

You've been experiencing this for a while. People can get used to many things with time. I would think if someone were in your same position with your same experiences, they'd have thought it was fairly normal and the reaction would have been positive or even welcoming.