what else could it be?

[angel]

ok im going to bare all here (not literally)

im wanting to hear what others alternative opinions are on why things happen to me and whats causing them..

in my short 31 year life...
i have what i/others beleieve to be spirit
(1) show themselfs to me in varying degrees of manifestation
(2)physically touch me
(3)communicate auidily to or through me
(4)put certain conditions upon me
(5)frighten the hell out of me
(6)alter objects in the material world
(7)give me insight through visual flashes of other/previous lives/info not known to me beforehand
(8)make me question my own sanity many times over
(9)makes me pick up emotional states from people/pictures/voices
(10)and lastly,makes me sometimes want to be normal,if their is such a thing.


theres prob more i could include if i think about it too.

so as you can see,i have enough to deal with in regards to spirits if you beleieve this is what is causing this.

so please let me go back to point 8.....yes i have questioned my own sanity many times..

but.....................
i have sought medical advice and..
(1) dont suffer from any form of mental condition
(2) baffled a consultant about sp episodes who couldnt quite admit they truly know sp is natural,but did say he didnt personally believe in ghosts.
(3) epilepsy had to be ruled out too,as certain night episodes resembled a form of epilepsy that only seems to affect a person at night or under extreme tiredness.(which i wasnt aware of)
(4)i am not under the influence of any form of drugs/alcohol/medication.

so please comments welcome on what other options ther are for what is going on..........

[shewho]

I too have had the same experiences you have had I have been told that I am crazy, been tested, medicated, sedated, and still the paranormal speaks.  I know now that the medical world does not understand the parnormal.  I would love to here about some of your experiences to see if they match with some of mine.

Shewho

[mslemon]

I know angel's posted about several things that have happened to her. Her house was even featured on ghost hunting show!

Here are a couple of her good event links:
http://www.wirenot.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99

http://www.wirenot.net/forums/showthread.php?t=123

[angel]

shewho, i would love to hear what you have experienced,most of mine are documented within this forum....

having things happen like that...does make you question yr sanity..but i know one thing for sure..IM CERTAINLY NOT MAD !!!

[nica939]

i have had  (1) (2)(3)(5)(6) (7) (7 threw lucid dreams..)(8)(9) not 10 because i see this as a gift threw these things i have my guardian angles and have "comminication" with god... yes they are scary somtimes and you might nowy know what to do but those scary times but for me at least make me stronger so that i know both sides of the coin at play. yes i am labled schizophrenic but i see this as a gift the meds dont stop these things from happening to me but they keep me sane at those moments when it is scary idk hehe i wouldent trade this gift for anything. yes i question my sanity somtimes also but other people feel something weird is happening when lets say one of the demons come around and other weird things happen to people in the house if i have lived in that house for a while.

[nica939]

i read some of your stories and i think some of the same stuff happens to me...at first when we move into a house we don't have weird things happening but after a while the people start appearing. i recently moved into my dads house and they have already started to appear like if i attract them..and the longer i stay at a house the seem to multiply and depending on how long other people notice.

[angel]

sorry babes,i would love to hear more from you,but one thing you wrote stood out to me..you say that you have been diagnosed as schizophrenic.i have worked with diagnosed patients of this in mental health,and do know that ppl at least in the uk,cant be properly diagnosed with this illness unless certain symptoms are present,and medication is in situ and result have been rendered as being a success in order to determine this condition..

could it not be that your "awareness" or "abilities" are being confused with schizophrenia,as i cant see how medication is not helping you,unless you have only rcently been prescribed this..we all know that their is no valid testing for schizophrenia ie.scans,x-rays,blood tests..and the diagnosis is only given with symptoms and the "benefit" of medications....if medication is not helping,their is no clinical accuracy on the initial possible disorder..

dont get me wrong,i do think at times their is a fine line between mental illness and paranormal..maybe i shpuld ask what you think on your personal beliefs....

before diagnosis how did you explain to yourself or others why things were occuring to you   ??????

[nica939]

well i have always known i was different...i never really told anyone about the things i see untill they asked me at the mental hospital i went to (i was severely depressed and suicidle) but yea...it turns out i am an indigo thanks to the forum hehe but before all that happend i just told my brother who was still alive that i was seeing hance my brother who had died and he just blew it off. but like i said i have always known i was different just never put much thought into it.

[all_outta_angst]

can somebody clearify to me one thing about schizophrenia?  

I know someone who claims to suffer from this and i don't have a full understanding of what it really is...but i seriously don't think this person has it.
First...he was vaguely diagnosed with this through someone who was NOT a specialist and given medication that keeps his personality "normal" (meaning he's not difficult to be around but also because it knocks him out cold)  This has been years going on and he claims to
a)hear voices...but they arn't audible...he says they are thoughts that arn't his...like negative thoughts etc...but he's also one who plays injured when he's asked to do chores or whatever to get his way.  
b) he suffers from depression, and has hurt himself (i've done it too), but seems to do it for attention when he's feeling alone and no ones paying attention to him.
c)he does have ADD but sounds more like an indigo child. he's never held a job but is on Goverment assured assistance for the severely handicapped...but he is NOT mentally nor physically handicapped enough to be on AISH...i think it's just lazyness because all he does is play video games all day or watch t.v.
d) He can seem like the nicest person in the world for awhile, but then turn into a selfish prick for a long time...but then he takes these meds that knock him out back to being a passive "nice guy" again.
Can anyone give some general warning signals of  schizophrenia? because it sounds like this dude is more prone to depression and ADD than the latter.
I was surprised that he addmitted himself to a mental institution when he was younger rather than his father/mother committing him.  This was when he dropped out of high school and he's 28 now...couple of months ago he even stated that the people in this ward were far messed up than he was and that he didn't even have an honest reason to be there.  *sigh* from what i know...just sounds like a typical angry kid growing up in an upper middle class christian home.  I know alot of what went on during these years because it's my girlfriends brother.  anyhoo..appreciate some comments on this.

[mslemon]

Well, the Diagnostic Statistics Manual (the premier reference for all things psychiatric) is not online without paying membership to some site or buying it outright. Since I don't teach anymore, I don't want it.

But I did find this very good link about schizophrenia.

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/mentalhealth/chapter4/sec4.html
You'll also notice as you peruse the overview I linked to that there are helpful subsections located in the left column there, too.
    *  Overview
    * Course and Recovery
    * Etiology of Schizophrenia
    * Interventions

From their site and directly obtained from the DSM IV:
# Characteristic symptoms: Two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a 1-month period (or less if successfully treated):

   1. delusions
   2. hallucinations
   3. disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence)
   4. grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior
   5. negative symptoms, i.e., affective flattening, alogia, or avolition

      Note: Only one Criterion A symptom is required if delusions are bizarre or hallucinations consist of a voice keeping up a running commentary on the person’s behavior or thoughts, or two or more voices conversing with each other.

The table goes on to include the rest of the criteria on duration, social and occupational dysfunction, etc. It's an informative clear concise read.

I've not known a person who is afflicted with this. But I hope this helps you.